Legal issues continue
Every since the 979X issues, Mr.Family has been reposting old stories. Going on about Bondage night, bringing up ads Club10 has had for months, be it college ID's or Military ID discounts on the cover charge.
He is doing everything he can to make people forget one of his biggest mistakes since he began his crusade. Any comment pertaining to his attacks on the 979 billboard will not be seen on his website. He wants it to go away, but I do not think he will be able to escape it.
More and more proof pops up that Mr.Family is breaking the law. Posting possible illegally taken pictures, printing libel comments that could get him a law suit. Below will be some comments taken (with permission) from web page of Eric Roberts of Mr.Family Funnies .
As pertaining to the 979 issue. Some have said that there was nothing coming from Citadel towards Mr.Family. Well here is a few words from a Citadel employee.
An informed source at Citadel Broadcasting who spoke to me on the condition of remaining anonymous has stated the corporation is investigating the blogs that Mr. Family posted about radio station 97.9 and the accusations that its interns posed nude for money at the stations request.
The spokesperson said " Right now our legal department is looking into the matter. Our primary concern is the vicious lies this blog site was reporting about our employees/ interns. ( posing nude for money at the station’s request) We are worried that these lies will affect our employees’ personal and family life. We can imagine the emotional distress that would be caused if rumors circulate among our employees family and friends that they were posing nude for us for an extra paycheck.
It could destroy marriages, and family relationships.... We are not going to tolerate that...
We were accused of sexual harassment.... a violation of state and federal law....We are not pleased at all... legal action is quite possible....
........While these blogs have been taken down, we are concerned that they were sent via the blogsite email feature and redistributed....... We are still getting complaints and inquires from news media, so they must still be in circulation ... no retraction has been issued by the blogsite........We are also concerned about our listeners and advertisers........ We will do everything possible to protect our employees and our reputation...... We appreciate your help....
Please keep us informed..... "
Citadel is keeping a very close eye on Mr.Family, and legal action may very well be a reality.
As one former Employee of 979 has felt the harsh lie of Mr.Family effect her life. This is what she had to say when we were contacted.
I interned and worked at 97.9. I am up for a promotion with my current company. My boss asked me if I ever posed nude for the radio station. I had no and he said that information was on the internet. I called the radio station and they told me about Mr family. The station is providing me with a letter stating I never posed nude for the station. They also gave me your address, so I could tell others what happened.
As you can see, Mr.Family does not care who is effected by the lies he has spread. His only concern is what he deems to be right, and that is not the law, as he has shown many times.
Now as pertains to his pictures. Even though it has been a VERY VERY long time since he has posted them, since it has become hard for followers of his to gain them legally, an attorney has spoken out on the matter. These again are taken from an interview from Eric Roberts and attorney Susan Miller.
MFF: After a three month absence, Mr Family has started publishing pictures of the club.
When and how is picture taking legal and illegal?
Sue: A picture taken in a public place, such as a street, of parked cars or other activity visible from that street is lawful because under these circumstances the person has no reasonable expectation of privacy. Tort issues regarding invasion of privacy arise when zoom lenses or telescopes or other technology is used to photograph things not visible to the ordinary eye in the location where the picture was taken.
MFF: Can you give some examples?
Sue: Let me add first, that pictures can be taken while engaging in lawful activity or unlawful activity. The pictures are subject to legal action if they violate a person’s reasonable expectation of privacy, not newsworthy, or a reasonable person would be offended by the publication.
MFF: That’s kind of confusing.
Sue; ok, I will give you a case I was involved in. The pastor of a church was upset that an adult bookstore opened about ½ mile down the road form the church. He encouraged persons to photograph cars and email to him. He published them on the internet and even in the church bulletin. The pastor and church were sued by one of the men whose car was photographed. I defended the church on grounds of first amendment protection, freedom of religion and many other reasons. We lost. The court ruled that 1. The parking lot is private property. 2. The bookstore is open only to a certain segment of the public, those 18 years and over not the general public at large. 3. The man parking there had a reasonable expectation of privacy, ie not being photographed. 4. His being there was not newsworthy. And 5. A reasonable person would be offended by the publication and the manner that the photographs were obtained.
What made the matter worse, the person who took the picture could not be located because it was emailed. Other persons testified they used zoom lenses etc from private property to obtain photos.
and did not have permission from the property owner to do so. The bottom line the picture taking activity cost the church about 25k. The court also said the church engaged in "spying" and was not protected by the state or federal constitution. The court also questioned the practice of soliciting pictures on the internet..
MFF: Are parking lots of businesses , shopping malls etc public or private property?
Sue: They are private property, used by the public, subject to the terms and conditions set forth by the owner/lesee. For example: a fast food restaurant sign: 30 minute parking limit while consuming our food. That doesn’t mean you can shoot pictures of the strip club down the street while eating their hamburgers. Unless the owner specifically states photography is permitted, one can presume it is not. Ask for permission.
MFF: What do you think of Mr family’s picture taking activity?
Sue: I will repeat what the court said to us " How can you tell this court that these pictures were taken legally if you did not take them yourself or were present when they were taken?
You are soliciting pictures from persons over the internet, most of these persons you don’t know from Adam. At a minimum they are of dubious origin, at the worst they could have been altered or faked, or obtained through unlawful or questionable means.
You simply cannot make any representation whatsoever about most of these pictures."
I would say the same to Mr. Family. He has no way of knowing. Noting the three month absence, Mr Family may have run into the same legal problems I mentioned here. I also see the disclaimer which also indicates he probably ran into legal challenges. I appreciate Mr Family’s religious beliefs, but I fail to see how these pictures will serve any useful purpose, as he claims. It may come back to bite him. I reserve further comments until I read more of his blogs
If Mr.Family has posted pictures of cars, those people still have a right to have it removed if it shows too much of their personal property. Which is exactly what Mr.Family tries to do. He may very well find himself in legal hot water very soon.
Lies, legal issues, slander and libel, yeah, real family freindly for Luzerne county
None of the content in this blog can be used with out consent of this website. Yes, that means you Mr.Family
He is doing everything he can to make people forget one of his biggest mistakes since he began his crusade. Any comment pertaining to his attacks on the 979 billboard will not be seen on his website. He wants it to go away, but I do not think he will be able to escape it.
More and more proof pops up that Mr.Family is breaking the law. Posting possible illegally taken pictures, printing libel comments that could get him a law suit. Below will be some comments taken (with permission) from web page of Eric Roberts of Mr.Family Funnies .
As pertaining to the 979 issue. Some have said that there was nothing coming from Citadel towards Mr.Family. Well here is a few words from a Citadel employee.
An informed source at Citadel Broadcasting who spoke to me on the condition of remaining anonymous has stated the corporation is investigating the blogs that Mr. Family posted about radio station 97.9 and the accusations that its interns posed nude for money at the stations request.
The spokesperson said " Right now our legal department is looking into the matter. Our primary concern is the vicious lies this blog site was reporting about our employees/ interns. ( posing nude for money at the station’s request) We are worried that these lies will affect our employees’ personal and family life. We can imagine the emotional distress that would be caused if rumors circulate among our employees family and friends that they were posing nude for us for an extra paycheck.
It could destroy marriages, and family relationships.... We are not going to tolerate that...
We were accused of sexual harassment.... a violation of state and federal law....We are not pleased at all... legal action is quite possible....
........While these blogs have been taken down, we are concerned that they were sent via the blogsite email feature and redistributed....... We are still getting complaints and inquires from news media, so they must still be in circulation ... no retraction has been issued by the blogsite........We are also concerned about our listeners and advertisers........ We will do everything possible to protect our employees and our reputation...... We appreciate your help....
Please keep us informed..... "
Citadel is keeping a very close eye on Mr.Family, and legal action may very well be a reality.
As one former Employee of 979 has felt the harsh lie of Mr.Family effect her life. This is what she had to say when we were contacted.
I interned and worked at 97.9. I am up for a promotion with my current company. My boss asked me if I ever posed nude for the radio station. I had no and he said that information was on the internet. I called the radio station and they told me about Mr family. The station is providing me with a letter stating I never posed nude for the station. They also gave me your address, so I could tell others what happened.
As you can see, Mr.Family does not care who is effected by the lies he has spread. His only concern is what he deems to be right, and that is not the law, as he has shown many times.
Now as pertains to his pictures. Even though it has been a VERY VERY long time since he has posted them, since it has become hard for followers of his to gain them legally, an attorney has spoken out on the matter. These again are taken from an interview from Eric Roberts and attorney Susan Miller.
MFF: After a three month absence, Mr Family has started publishing pictures of the club.
When and how is picture taking legal and illegal?
Sue: A picture taken in a public place, such as a street, of parked cars or other activity visible from that street is lawful because under these circumstances the person has no reasonable expectation of privacy. Tort issues regarding invasion of privacy arise when zoom lenses or telescopes or other technology is used to photograph things not visible to the ordinary eye in the location where the picture was taken.
MFF: Can you give some examples?
Sue: Let me add first, that pictures can be taken while engaging in lawful activity or unlawful activity. The pictures are subject to legal action if they violate a person’s reasonable expectation of privacy, not newsworthy, or a reasonable person would be offended by the publication.
MFF: That’s kind of confusing.
Sue; ok, I will give you a case I was involved in. The pastor of a church was upset that an adult bookstore opened about ½ mile down the road form the church. He encouraged persons to photograph cars and email to him. He published them on the internet and even in the church bulletin. The pastor and church were sued by one of the men whose car was photographed. I defended the church on grounds of first amendment protection, freedom of religion and many other reasons. We lost. The court ruled that 1. The parking lot is private property. 2. The bookstore is open only to a certain segment of the public, those 18 years and over not the general public at large. 3. The man parking there had a reasonable expectation of privacy, ie not being photographed. 4. His being there was not newsworthy. And 5. A reasonable person would be offended by the publication and the manner that the photographs were obtained.
What made the matter worse, the person who took the picture could not be located because it was emailed. Other persons testified they used zoom lenses etc from private property to obtain photos.
and did not have permission from the property owner to do so. The bottom line the picture taking activity cost the church about 25k. The court also said the church engaged in "spying" and was not protected by the state or federal constitution. The court also questioned the practice of soliciting pictures on the internet..
MFF: Are parking lots of businesses , shopping malls etc public or private property?
Sue: They are private property, used by the public, subject to the terms and conditions set forth by the owner/lesee. For example: a fast food restaurant sign: 30 minute parking limit while consuming our food. That doesn’t mean you can shoot pictures of the strip club down the street while eating their hamburgers. Unless the owner specifically states photography is permitted, one can presume it is not. Ask for permission.
MFF: What do you think of Mr family’s picture taking activity?
Sue: I will repeat what the court said to us " How can you tell this court that these pictures were taken legally if you did not take them yourself or were present when they were taken?
You are soliciting pictures from persons over the internet, most of these persons you don’t know from Adam. At a minimum they are of dubious origin, at the worst they could have been altered or faked, or obtained through unlawful or questionable means.
You simply cannot make any representation whatsoever about most of these pictures."
I would say the same to Mr. Family. He has no way of knowing. Noting the three month absence, Mr Family may have run into the same legal problems I mentioned here. I also see the disclaimer which also indicates he probably ran into legal challenges. I appreciate Mr Family’s religious beliefs, but I fail to see how these pictures will serve any useful purpose, as he claims. It may come back to bite him. I reserve further comments until I read more of his blogs
If Mr.Family has posted pictures of cars, those people still have a right to have it removed if it shows too much of their personal property. Which is exactly what Mr.Family tries to do. He may very well find himself in legal hot water very soon.
Lies, legal issues, slander and libel, yeah, real family freindly for Luzerne county
None of the content in this blog can be used with out consent of this website. Yes, that means you Mr.Family
posted by Bloodsword6 at Tuesday, January 23, 2007
28 Comments:
I would think if someone wanted to track those plates they could and the person could be in great danger from people against where the car was suppose to be parked.
That is very true. for 25 dollars you can look up any plate in the US.
And using a Zoom lense to take pictures in of a car in the parking lot is not legal.
And people have been doing that for Mr.Family, so people have a legal claim against him.
But he would tell you otherwise
It amazes me, how Mr,Family thinks he is doing such a great thing, and at the same time, be harming innocent people, and harm his own self with the lies he is posting on his site.
I wonder what he thinks when he finds out he has hurt that poor girl that use to work at 979. And I also wonder what he thinks when he finds out other things he has posted are false, and what of the poor people that got in trouble for tresspassing while tryingto take photos for him.
He has no care for any of them, just his own desires.
Perhaps mr choice could contact his sources at the local station to see if they have anything to say about the matter.
Waiting to hear back from them as we speak. 8)
Every knows Mr.Family has no concern for anyone who does not see things his way. Old news
How much longer will you support scumy whores Mr.Choice? You bitch about Mr.Family hidding behind his website, yet you do the very same.
I don;t see you sticking your head out? Dont be such a loser.
And Mr.Family has not broken any laws. You are a liar. He took down the 979 posts because the billboard was taken down. pay attention
Scummy whores? How Godly of you to say that. You should be ashamed of yourself. Everybody is somebody.
Dear anon 5:15
Thank you for proving your intolerance, and ignorance for the issue at hand. And the billboards for 979, are still up. Glad to see your paying attention.
Mr.Family did break the law. Making the claims against 979, and using their images with out consent is a viable for a legal claim against him.
Not to mention some of the photos he has had on his site are taken right from the parking lot, and that is illegal as well. I do pay attention, but your ignorance shows you do not, But thanks for stopping by.
oh no he does not hide behind his blog....have met choice several times and he tells right who he is.
Anon 3:59 I also used my real name on 979 when I was on the Jim Bone show discussing Mr.Family and his attacks on their billboard.
I also apologize to anon 5:15. I typed the wrong user time in my reply. It was directed towards the comments of anon 3:59, not towards anon 5:15.
Sorry abut that.
Hey Sep,
maybe its because Mr.Choice has manners, and respect for other people. UNlike Mr.Family who has no care of who he hurts as long as he gets his way.
Anon 3:59 I know Mr.Choice on a personal basis. Great guy, ver repectable. Now I do not like the club, I have never been a fan of strip clubs, And He doesnt even go all that often. But he know people have the right to go there if they want.
I would trust this man with my life if it came to it, as well as the life of my children. He is not a sicko, like Mr.Family tells you everyone that goes to strip clubs are.
He is a great guy, with a good head on his shoulders.
How long until Mr.Family makes yet another dumb mistake?
I cant wait for another goof laugh.
please answer this...looking over mr fam's site I noticed or did I just miss that the pictures of cars with plate number visable have been removed....anyone 's input? A source just told me citadel is in process of court action and that is the truth. I bet he will settle out of court for damages.
one more note...you can not comment on new posts on his site,,,why would that be?
That is because it has come out that many photos that are taken on public property, are still subject to some privacy laws.
Example: if someone uses a Zoom lens (as many of Mr.Family supporters state they did to try to embarrass people) that is no longer a legally obtained photo.
You can not show more than the normal eye can see. And, if too much info is shown in the photo, like a readable license plate, that person can have a claim against Mr.Family.
He has always said his photos are legal, but once this info was made public, and stated on his message board, his photos have changed drastically. Pictures of the building are just free advertisement. Nothing more. Mr.Family has hit a brick wall.
I imagine the comments were removed, as more people were there to criticize him, and point out his mistakes. I also know many were trying to post comments about the legal trouble with Citadel, which he is trying to cover up. That may have a lot to do with it. Mr.Family really doesn't want free speech, only what he wants you to hear.
Mr.Choice your a sick person. You approve of laws that protect scum bags. God did not intend for this kind of place to be open, there for the laws should be changed. This kind of filth should not be allowed anywhere in our world.
if god did not intend TT bars then he should not have created women with them.
choice thanks for the clarification on the zoom lens and the real protection from photes under the law. It is interesting that he had claimed time and time again that it was legal and his leagl counsil this and that ....well I hope he didn't have to pay them for wrong advise that now will cost him a lawsuit.
Mr Choice is right. The comments sections are being deleted because Mr Family
is probably getting too many negative comments.
I can't think of any other reason. Even his suporters are critizing the pics.
I am sure many of his supporter wonder what happen to his Citadel blogs.
I received an E-mail today from the person I was in contact with at 979.
They beleive it to be a dead issue now with Mr.Family, and have nothing more to say on the subject.
This is exactly what most of the media have to say now. Mr.Family is a dead issue.
that is what i got form the person at Citadel headquarters-as long as no more repercussions occur, it is a dead issue.
like you said everyone considers mr family a thing of the past.
Maybe Mr.Family cut out his comments because he does not want to hear garbage from shit piles like you!
You protect garbage, woman who dance nude. Scummy drug bags that deserve to die. You all need to fade away. You can not see what Mr.Family is trying to do for our area. Make sure it is safe for good people. Not garbage like you.
To 7:59
You are filled with hatred. You should work on your own faults and stop judging others. It's obvious that you're definitely not worthy of judging anyone. I think that's God's job anyway.
Anon 7:59
I have seen what Mr.Family has done. Lied to people, cut out comments that debunk his posts. Post illegal photos taken with zoom lenses.
Ingnore the grandfather laws, ingnore the original ordinaces I posted. Spread gossip that has hurt the lives of an innocent woman.
You have hate in you, and intolerance for others. You say people deserve to die for dancing nude? You need help. You are not a good person. Your a hate monger. It is actually people like you that need to fade away. You do not agree with a lifestyle that is not your own, so you damn them. You need to look in the mirror and see why you are so angry.
Sephiroth111
Try to add something to the conversation besides lame Star Wars lines will you. You post has nothing to do with any topic in this message thread. You sound like a goof ball.
Mr.Choice, always love your articles. Keep them coming. I have never been to the club, but people should be allowed to go if they want to. Some people are just too uptight.
I actually sent Mr Family a copy of the picture taking article. I believe he got into sme sort of legal challenge- he was afraid of more challenges so he removed all the car pics.
He probably got tired of all the negative comments and questions about the deletions.
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